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The Buccaneer 24 Trimaran

Originally posted 2010 but updated 2021

The plans for this great little all-ply boat are/were still advertised here for about $150 , and include full size templates for frames (Go to this Forum for more info and track down 'OldSailor7' to inquire about these plans.). The boat demounts of course, and the aka tubes simply act as struts with virtually a ball joint at the main hull sleeve.  The attachment of the akas to the amas with saddles and straps is a little crude but it works, all helping to get the boat built in relatively low manhours.  Rigging wise, the mast actually holds the amas up but as long as nothing breaks, it works ok and is light!   The already 'rather loose' system would make fitting and using a rotating wingmast pretty tricky though.

There were originally three models of the Buccaneer. The B24, B28 and B32/33, if I remember well. A B24 in New Zealand (named Miranda—formerly Gulf Chariot), was extended in the stern to 28' to remove the excessive stern rocker that only worked well in light weather. They also removed the main hull daggerboard and added asymmetric foils in the floats (angled at approximately 25 degrees) and fitted a new, underhung and balanced rudder, rotating mast and 7 ⁄ 8 rig. This made the boat much quicker than the original, even though it was too light** to ever be slow (it could be even faster with a slightly taller flat-head rig).  It should be noted that using two ama boards instead of a central one may not suit everyone.   This will often mean getting wet to handle them on a very lively boat and if sailing in shallow or rough water, could be potentially dangerous.   I'd then consider a center or quadrant board that would pop-up more easily.  (I went through the same design trade-off exercise for my W22 and finally choose a quadrant board)

** one thing that kept these boats very light was their lack of epoxy sheathing.  The lightest one I saw was the one shown in the above photo.  At 28 years old she was still light and dry and the interior of the boat was only protected with a wood preservative like Cuprinol ..., not with epoxy.     Keeping a plywood boat dry and aired out is the REAL secret for a long life, but without sheathing you will need to nurse her a little more.

After owning two, I can say the B24 was amazingly nimble in very light airs, as it could be sailed only on the center hull, and in mixed racing in light conditions, she would often keep up with 40' racing monohulls !.   However, the high dihedral that permitted that, also made the boat very tippy at mooring and permitted more heel than normal on todays modern boats.   However, its that relatively high heel that allows wind to escape off the top as it does on monohulls, reducing the capsize moment and perhaps one of the main reasons this 24ft boat has no public record of capsizing to my knowledge.  There's always a design trade-off or compromises to be made ;)     Having sailed them quite a lot, together with their easy 'flip-flop' side to side at anchor or mooring, I'd say they do feel rather nervous and skittish with their light weight and higher heel angles than normal, but are still sporty and fun.  But graduating to Magic Hempel (a D25R) a few years later was like going from a Lotus 7 to an Audi Quattro, offering more performance with a lot less stress.    It's no wonder that I later used Magic Hempel as my guide and benchmark for my smaller W22 design.

For those who like traditional ply on frame construction (see #1 Method), the B24 is no doubt one of the best of the older designs still out there, with the boats by Norman Cross and the demountable Crowther Kraken designs being options from the same time period. I would however, recommend to modify the stern lines of the main B24 hull as was done on Miranda, as this can help the top end considerably. Otherwise, just follow the plans and keep it light. I've seen some that were overbuilt with too much epoxy etc., with added stiffeners, thicker ply and heavy sheathing, and they never did sail as well. Lock Crowther (aeronautical engineer) knew what he was doing! His son still runs a design business, but is into much bigger things.  Lock's other early Kraken designs were also well ahead of their time, with higher overall beam that normal for the 70's and his hulls were long and slim with minimum rocker, far more like today's fast boats than those from his era.    Hats off to Mr Crowther!

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by Small Tri Guy | Jul 24, 2010 | Self-built Small Trimarans , Small Tri Info - All | 8 comments

Lock Crowther’s Buccaneer 24 trimaran is a vintage design that still holds its own among contemporary small tri models. This is especially true when it comes to performance.

I first mentioned the Buccaneer 24 trimaran a while back . But this post comes to us from contributor Patrick McGrath, who knew Lock Crowther, served as a Canadian representative for his designs, and personally built 2 Buccaneer 24 models, which included one for himself.

Patrick kindly answers a few questions that I had for him (I could have sent him dozens more :-) … along with most of the photo images found below.

So please enjoy; this post is a gem — Small Tri Guy

I had an RAF career and since air force stations are mainly inland I didn’t see much water until my last posting, which was right in the North of Scotland. On the hard at Findhorn Bay, there was a “Dragon” class keelboat. I thought it was the most beautiful thing on earth and I made a vow that as soon as I got out of the RAF I would have a sailboat.

When I finished my service I went straight to Canada to a job in the Aero business. That winter I built a pram dinghy in my living room and sailed it in the Spring and Summer. I subsequently taught myself to sail fast on a Sunfish. I met a man at work who owned a Sillouette MKII, 18ft mono with twin keels. I sailed a lot with him and got the urge to have my own boat. I fancied a little 20ft DIY plywood mono called “Juanita”.

But then I saw a 3 view of Arthur Pivers’ “Nugget” in “Yachting” magazine. With my aeronautical background I immediately saw the logic of a simple lightweight plywood boat, with positive buoyancy for stability, instead of a heavy lump of lead. I read Arthur’s book “Trans Atlantic Trimaran”—and I was sold.

I bought the plans from Piver and built the boat in my car space in the underground carpark of my high-rise apartment. I built it during the winter in modular sections, carting them on top of my car to a marina at Lake Simcoe. I assembled it in the Spring — launching it in July 1964. With my wife and two boys, we sailed it every weekend in the summer and cruised for two weeks every summer vacation for four years. It was great.

I really got into the business of yacht design and became the Canadian Secretary of the AYRS. I realized that the aircraft industry was a Boom & Bust business and started my own part time company and registered it as “Canadian Multihull Services.” I chose what I considered to be the best multihull designers, and simply asked them if I could represent them by selling their plans in Canada and the USA.

Piver wanted exclusive agency, so I declined, as I did not want to drop the designers that I already had. This included Jim Brown, Norm Cross. Hedley Nichol, James Wharram, Robert Harris, and of course Lock Crowther … plus several others who didn’t make the grade and are now long forgotten. In 1966 Hedley was lost at sea, as was Piver in 1968. I wrote a book called “Modern Catamaran Design” which sold well, but which would seem archaic today. I also wrote the book, “50 Multihulls You Can Build” featuring all the designs offered by the designers whose agencies I had.

By 1970 I had to make a decision. I made the right one, quitting the aircraft business and going full time in my own. It was the best thing I ever did. In 1969 I sold a set of Kraken 40 plans to Dave Green, a Toronto businessman. I helped him build “Ringo” for the New York -Bermuda race. Lock came over for the race and that was when I first met him.

We talked a lot and he told me about his design for a small trimaran that could be built easily and quickly at low cost. He felt that to many boats that are planned, never get finished because of the long time, sustained effort and cost involved. He envisioned a boat that could be made from three sheets of ply joined end to end, without needing a strongback, and having its major stresses passing thu a main bulkhead. This would be achieved with standard alloy tubing for the crossbeams, mast, boom, and spinnaker pole, with stainless steel straps for the water stays, giving a strong, rigid but light structure for the whole boat.

Lock Crowther's Buccaneer 24 Trimaran

The result was the Buccaneer 24. I decided to build one for the 1970 Bermuda race, but I didn’t get it finished in time. I then wrote an article for the long gone “Trimariner” Magazine, called “A Buccaneer for Bermuda”.

Sailing the Buccaneer 24

I built ,sailed, cruised and raced a Buccaneer 24, in Canada in the middle seventies. I subsequently built two Buccaneer 28’s — one for a customer and the other for myself. I then built three Buccaneer 33’s in foam glass sandwhich. I was Locks Canada/USA agent from 1966 to 1977, when I sold my company and moved to Australia.

The Buccaneer 24 is a stunning performer. It is strong and light. It has a moderate waterline L/B ratio, so it is a comfortable cruiser for 3 people and sometimes 4.

Buccaneer 24 Trimaran at Dock

It’s multi chined bottom approximates a semicircle and so its low drag and light weight enable it to quietly move out when surrounding boats appear to be anchored to the water. It moves out smartly in a good wind.

Unlike many modern tris, its cockpit is comfortable and protects the helmsman, with good back support in the form of a coaming, which has lockers in it for easy access to sailing equipment. There is no need for an expensive or complicated mainsheet traveller. A diagram for a simple mainsheet/outhaul is included with the plans.

Buccaneer 24 Trimaran's Slender Hulls

There is a much modified B24, made of foam sandwich, with a streamlined cabin top sailing in Toronto Harbour, Canada, as we speak. It rivals any of the “Modern” designs currently being offered. It is called “Toy” and is a delight to the eye.

I want to make it quite clear that I am retired and am not in the plans selling or boat building business any more. I am only making the B24 plans available on request because I don’t want to let this wonderful example of lock Crowther’s genius to be lost. This was the most prolifically sold and built of all Lock’s designs, and is today the only one which is still available. Because I don’t think that this very special design should be allowed to die, I have been making the plans available again at about a quarter of the cost of comparable Tris.

Buccaneer Trimaran Plans Sketch

If you go to “Boatdesign.net” and scroll down to “Multihulls” then search for “24ft Trimaran plans for sale” ,you will find a lot of information, including “Buccaneer 24 Trimaran”, “Buccaneer builders Forum”, “Lock Crowthers Biography” and other stuff.

Cheers, Patrick McGrath

Images of the Buccaneer 24 materials list and building instructions can be found here . And plans for the Buccaneer 24 Trimaran can be purchased from “OldSailor7” at BoatDesign.net

I have read your old book “Modern Catamaran Design”, a great read back then, but don’t have a copy in my personal library. I recall seeing your name around a lot as well. I owned two Brown Searunners so far and have raced and sailed on many other multihulls. Crowther may not be well known today but his cruising oriented Buccaneer series were exceptionally good boats, and fast. His Kraken series were just terrific race boats, and might even be competitive today, though probably some sort of handicap rule would likely be needed. The Buccaneer 24 I always thought was a very interesting smaller tri. I’ve seen them, been on one but never sailed one. I’ve raced on a larger multihull (up by Toronto i turned out) and one member of the Toronto Multihull Cruising Club had a B24. To say it’s stunning performer is, if anything, an understatement. I had a nice, fast small tri when I was single, a Searunner 25. However, it was a slow boat to the Orient when compared to the B24! If you have the guts, you’d make it from City Island, NY out to the end of Long Island in about half a day, meaning leaving early, around 7 or 8am, and arriving around Greenport by or before dark. That’s only about 115 miles along LI Sound. Try that on nearly any other boat except another really fast multihull! (Of course winds have to be right for that too.) I think the B24 is one of the older, faster cruiser/racers that would turn a heck of a lot of folks onto the joys of multihull sailing if they only sailed one!

Can ANYBODY find me a set of Buccaneer 28 plans PLEASE !

Cheers, Reuben Fremantle W.A [email protected]

Hello, How can i find out where to purchased the Plans for the 24 and at what cost ? Thank you very much Lutz

Hi Lutz, Contact the fellow nicknamed Oldsailor at the following page – http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/multihulls/22-24-trimaran-23449.html He sells the Buc building plans.

Good news! 24 years ago I bought and enjoyed a B24 for 8 yrs; saying since, many times “it was the best boat I ever had.” (30odd to date!) well 18 mths ago I bought another one in pieces, and rather neglected. However in Nov 2014 she was launched, and am now completing the interior, electrics, bunks, etc. I put the sails on her for the first time, today, and am now itching to get going/flying again! These babies will do wind speed on a reach, up to 30 kts. I covered the last two miles of a race once with the previous B24 @ 30 kts SOG ! Wow ! Doug

Just an update for everyone. We now market and sell the Buccaneer 24′ Trimaran plans that Patrick used to sell to keep her alive, we took over from OS7 last year on Boatdesign.net you can find us under Outside the box or the plans are available on the plans page of our website. We are also finalising a modernisation of the Buccaneer 24′ Trimaran and these details are on the website also. We purchased a Buccaneer 24′ Trimaran to use as a test bed for our many design ideas. When finished the design will be a foil assisted 8.5mtr Buccaneer inspired performance Trimaran. Regards Brooke Johnston Office Manager Ezifold Yachts Ltd Christchurch New Zealand [email protected]

I’m looking for a set of Buc 24 plans since ezifold yachts is no longer in business. Roman P.

The B24 that is mentioned in this article named “TOY” is currently for sale on Toronto Kijiji. for $9,800 in case someone is interested. It’s not my boat (I own a Farrier F36/39 that we’re sailed to New Zealand and I don’t even know the owner) I hope someone here will buy the boat since she sounds like a special one. I notice that there seems to be no cabin on here and just an open cuddy, so she must be much lighter than other ones

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Wayne Barrett has been building boats for 50 years, many of them world renowned. His latest venture is a DIY trimaran kit that embodies his half-century of expertise and celebrates “the joy of building and sailing your own creation”.

Famed in multihull circles and the creator of high profile vessels such as ‘Trilogy’ and ‘Indian Chief’ designed by Tony Grainger, and ‘Traveller’, the 50-foot tri designed by Dick Newick, Barrett describes himself as “a little guy designing boats on the kitchen table in an apartment on the Gold Coast, with a nice view over the lake”.

He has built some “100 or so boats” over the years and his passion and prowess have inspired him to create the M80 trimaran, an 8-metre vessel designed with the home builder in mind; those with limited time or space, and some basic experience with hand tools.

The versatile M80 can be specced for cruising or racing and the larger 9-metre design will have a range enough to sail across the Atlantic.

“In 2021, I’m planning to sail the 8-metre boat up to The Whitsundays as a promotional exercise to showcase the vessel. It’s very manageable for single-handed sailing.”

The concept arose from Barrett’s belief that sailing should be within everybody’s reach.

“I’ve built quite a few complicated, high-performance multihulls over the years and I’m aware they consume time that’s way beyond what an amateur could devote to a build. I used the flat panel concept, adapted to tri design and put it out there for amateur or professional builders.

“A friend of mine I’ve been sailing with for 40 years needed a new modern Buccaneer 24, a plywood 24-foot Crowther around in 1966. I’ve built a few of them, and a B33, B40 and a Spindrift 37. I thought about it for a year or so, then did something about it.

The spiritual successor to the Crowther Buccaneer 24, the 24-ft ‘Mojo’, was originally designed with a central cockpit, a double bunk down aft and a galley and head forward, which I thought was a great concept. But I scrapped that idea and went with a conventional aft cockpit.”

The first boat, in Brazil, set sail just over three years ago and since then, Barrett has sold plans around the world.

“A mate of mine from Geelong, Andrew Johnson, is building one at Lightwave Yachts at Coomera on the Gold Coast with the guidance of Roger Overell. It’s well into the final stages and will be used for cruising. It’s made totally from carbon, so it’s light and strong.

“There’s another one being built in France, a 6-metre design being built in Melbourne and a 9-metre design close to completion in The Netherlands. I’ve sold 9-metre plans to Germany and one in Sydney, revised to be all flat panel, foam and round bilge, with aesthetics to suit that owner.”

The main attributes of the design that have such broad appeal are its simplicity and economical package.

“Initially the concept was built around plywood, which has been a common material for 100 years and most people are familiar with it,” explained Barrett. “The benefit of ply is that a guy can build it in his own shed, over time. But other than the 9-metre in The Netherlands, people are all keen on the foam and epoxy.

“Foam and epoxy is a bit more costly, but comparing the total price is attractive for an amateur builder. It can be built from CNC cut panels in a fraction of the time compared to some other options, alternatively you can build it from our easy to follow plan set for DuraKore, DuFlex or foam core kits.”

Barrett has worked with ATL Composites for the past 25 years on numerous projects, including the 9.2-metre ‘Trilogy’, which held the Aust Championship title for around 10 years, ‘Traveller’ and the 13-metre Gary Lidgard-designed cat ‘Saloon Bar’.

“I also built a 7.5-metre caravan which appeared on the ABC program, ‘New Inventors’ five or so years ago,” continued Barrett. “I used ATL Composites’ products, including foam and resins.

“ATL spent a lot of time scanning the surface of the moulds so we could get an accurate pattern for the shapes of the foam core. I built five of them, all custom designed and built, all traveling the country. It was a fantastic looking thing!

“ATL has always been fantastic to me, in their general support, timely supply of goods, always bending over backwards to help.”

For the M80 in build at Lightwave Yachts, the main shell structure, fore and side decks, and cabin sides were built with DuFLEX/foam panels cored with Divinycell H80 structural foam in a variety of thicknesses and reinforced with double bias E-Fibreglass skins.

The cabin top and floats were strip planked with DuFLEX H80 strips with a 450grm uni-directional on either side to achieve the compound shapes and then reinforced with additional laminates to complete the structure.

The project incorporated carbon fibre and E-fibreglass reinforcement, supplied by ATL, to provide stiffness and to achieve the weight specification for the project.

High performance KINETIX R246TX, a thixotropic epoxy, was used to laminate these reinforcements and WEST SYSTEM R105 and H206 was used for all bonding and coving, combined with WEST SYSTEM 413 Microfibre Blend and 411 Microsphere Blend powder modifiers to alter the consistency for the specific applications.

The M80 was faired with ATL’s unique Technifill XP which is a pre-filled epoxy fairing compound that is ultra lightweight and very easy to sand.

Getting started is straightforward, according to Barrett. “People buy the plans, complete with DXF files and they can have all the flat components cut out with CNC or jigsaw by hand”.

“If you have plenty of time, it’s cheap. An average handyman or woman, with basic experience with hand tools could put it together in their garage or workshop. In The Netherlands it’s being assembled under a tent to keep rain and snow out. Where there’s a will, there’s a way to boat the world over.”

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Buccaneer 28 - build from plans

Discussion in ' Multihulls ' started by ptnursery , Aug 25, 2016 .

ptnursery Junior Member

Hi, I am interested in learning more about the Lock Crowther designed Buccaneer 28 trimaran. I have found and downloaded some rough sketches of the boat on the internet. Would like to talk to some who currently owns or has built one. How does the boat sail ? Is the 2000 lb. payload realistic ? What could you expect for average cruising speed ? Thanks  

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ptnursery said: ↑ Hi, I am interested in learning more about the Lock Crowther designed Buccaneer 28 trimaran. I have found and downloaded some rough sketches of the boat on the internet. Would like to talk to some who currently owns or has built one. How does the boat sail ? Is the 2000 lb. payload realistic ? What could you expect for average cruising speed ? Thanks Click to expand...

Tom, Thanks for replying and for the info. I will read up on the Buccaneer 24 build thread you posted. I got the 2000 lb payload from sheet 7 of the plans downloaded from the internet. It lists displacement 4000 lb and max payload 2000. I can email the pdf if you would like to look at it. Motor, sails, people, equipment (and I guess weight of the mast), etc. would all have to be deducted from the 2000 lb. number. Just curious, have you ever had a chance to sail on a Buccaneer 28? I wish I could see some pictures of one that was built from plans or see one in person. This is a great site! Thanks  

ptnursery said: ↑ Tom, Thanks for replying and for the info. I will read up on the Buccaneer 24 build thread you posted. I got the 2000 lb payload from sheet 7 of the plans downloaded from the internet. It lists displacement 4000 lb and max payload 2000. I can email the pdf if you would like to look at it. Motor, sails, people, equipment (and I guess weight of the mast), etc. would all have to be deducted from the 2000 lb. number. Just curious, have you ever had a chance to sail on a Buccaneer 28? I wish I could see some pictures of one that was built from plans or see one in person. This is a great site! Thanks Click to expand...

Tom, Gotcha with the payload numbers. They do seem almost to be too good to be true. But, as you pointed out given the competition at the time to crank out a race winner must have been a challenge. I started reading the Buccaneer 24 thread you sent me. A lot of good information to read and digest. How much room did you have in the 24 you built ? Do you feel there is enough room for a double, and storage for provisions for 2 for a week or so. I was looking for something to explore some local bays and perhaps Bahamas, or trailer to Sea of Cortez someday. I really like Crowther's design and also the fact that it would be relatively easy to repair/maintain (and less of an expense) when compared to a modern day corsair/farrier/dragonfly. Based on your experience building the 24, how long do you feel it would take a person in their late fifties with some finish carpentry experience to build one ? Thanks  

freddyj Senior Member

I'm in my late fifties with almost no carpentry experience, and I'm at 560 hours into the project. I can fairly accurately estimate I'll be close to the 700 hour mark by the time I'm done.  

Freddyj, hi thanks for the hourly build estimates. I saw some pictures of your build. It looks like a nice boat. Are you planning on putting an aluminum mast and crossbeams per the plans ?  

bruceb Senior Member

real world pt, I have a wood 24 that I have done a lot of work on and a composite 33 that I have rebuilt and am currently sailing. I love the boats, but they are not freighters. My 24, built out of heavier 1/4" ply weighs 1650 lbs empty. Proper ply and attention to detail would reduce it to around 1450 lbs or less. The 24 is over loaded past 2200 lbs, so it is easy to exceed its limits. It is also really fun to sail, and with today's light camping type equipment is a practical small two person cruiser. I think Fred is going to enjoy his. The 28 is possibly the "best" of the bucs, with real cruising amenities and still not too big to build. I would expect it to take closer to 2000 hrs and it should carry about 1200 lbs. Read the 24, 28 & 33 threads carefully, there is a lot of information. B  

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I've often thought that the Buc 24 would make better sense if it had a flat deck by cutting off and lowering the cabin roof. Heres my logic; any space that doesn't have standing headroom should be classified as just ' bunk' space. Being inside a tiny cabin where you can't stand up straight gets very tedious after a very short period of time . On a flat deck version you would have a boom tent instead. When anchored or in a marina hoist your boom tent over the flat deck; hey presto lots of area to walk around Under full standing headroom! You could even design a lightweight canopy with hoops that lies flat on the deck, and is easy to instantly pull up into position to form a deck tent. The lowered cabin space can still be used as a tiny low height sleeping space when underway; but you're going to have crawl inside. Plus you have instantly reduced windage, and can sail closer to windward. Of course on such a small boat accommodation is all about massive compromise .  

bruceb, I appreciate your thoughts/insight & info about these 2 boats. Both boats seem to have their own niche. The 24 light, easy to build, fast, and less $$. The primary reason for building a 28 would be to attain more room & comfort. This one item comes at a cost in $$, time to build, and increased maintenance cost for the life of the boat. I think this is why I'm having trouble finding any Buccaneer 28 built from plans that are currently being sailed. The old saying "the bigger the boat the more money" rings true. Thanks  

rustybarge, Your logic sounds good with the flat deck and a boom tent. These boats can be so versatile with a little imagination. This is a great site !  

redreuben redreuben

Here, are some 28 pics I have gathered. The blue and white spinnaker and the black and whites are Oldsailers photos (I think). The boat cruising with the dinghy on deck is Mark Pescott' boat. The interior photo is from a boat advert I think. Hope they inspire.  

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redreuben, Thanks for posting the pictures. I'm still reading/digesting the info on this site. pt  

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rustybarge said: ↑ I've often thought that the Buc 24 would make better sense if it had a flat deck by cutting off and lowering the cabin roof. Heres my logic; any space that doesn't have standing headroom should be classified as just ' bunk' space. Being inside a tiny cabin where you can't stand up straight gets very tedious after a very short period of time . On a flat deck version you would have a boom tent instead. When anchored or in a marina hoist your boom tent over the flat deck; hey presto lots of area to walk around Under full standing headroom! You could even design a lightweight canopy with hoops that lies flat on the deck, and is easy to instantly pull up into position to form a deck tent. The lowered cabin space can still be used as a tiny low height sleeping space when underway; but you're going to have crawl inside. Plus you have instantly reduced windage, and can sail closer to windward. Of course on such a small boat accommodation is all about massive compromise . Click to expand...

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Corley said: ↑ I don't really agree the space enclosed in a cabin even if it is tight is much more useful than space under a boom tent which can only be used when at anchor it's also much easier to get into the bunks and they are more pleasant to sleep in when they have some air gap above them. It's nice to have a place where you can get out of the wind that is permanently available while sailing and has natural light even if it's not possible to stand in it. Click to expand...

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